tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5407783074290571587.post8814832814005708516..comments2024-02-14T14:04:43.435+01:00Comments on Martin in Broda: Über einen Papst und ein trauriges Lied von KonstantinopelMartininBrodahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13367467039848677931noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5407783074290571587.post-77280270271656305122009-05-30T19:07:12.861+02:002009-05-30T19:07:12.861+02:00They wanted to misunderstand him, but it’s indeed ...They wanted to misunderstand him, but it’s indeed an interesting lecture and worth to say something about it, he never said the emperor was right with his opinion against Mohammed, just the opposite, but the quotation was also a bit a mirror for the Muslim world, seems many don’t like what they have seen and it was courageous.<br /> <br />About the Paléologue family, that’s interesting too, thank you. Do you know more about it, what the decent is etc. (must not be today)?MartininBrodahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13367467039848677931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5407783074290571587.post-51489632973797734912009-05-30T18:35:47.192+02:002009-05-30T18:35:47.192+02:00His Holiness got like totally misunderstood!Btw., ...His Holiness got like totally misunderstood!Btw., did you know, there is still a family Paléologue in Géneve? They don´t but sill can hold the title S.M.E. Yours PilgrimPilgrimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10302358349617667455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5407783074290571587.post-82701019897277128512009-05-29T22:25:10.086+02:002009-05-29T22:25:10.086+02:00that's my (very) poor translation
About a Pope an...that's my (very) poor translation <br />About a Pope and a sad song of Constantinople<br /><br />Before somewhat less than 3 years (on September 12th 2006) Pope Benedikt XVI caused great enthusiasm in the Muslim world by his lecture at the University of Regensburg quoting a Byzantine emperor, Manuel II. Palaiologos:<br /><br />„‚Show me, what brought Mohammed new, and you will find only bad and inhumane things, like this that he ordered, the faith, which he preached, spread by the sword`. The emperor caused after this strike in detail, why faith spreading by force is paradoxical. It contradicts to the nature of God and the nature of the soul. ‚God does not have a favour of blood `, he says, ‚and to act not reasonably not σὺν λόγω is against the nature of God, it’s offensive to him `. The faith follows the soul, not the body. Who wants lead someone to the faith, needs the ability of good speech and right thinking, not force and fear… “<br /><br />My remark about enthusiasm was admittedly somewhat ironical. <br />But actually the empire of this emperor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_Empire) perished today, Constantinople died May 29th 1453 and with it one of his successors, the last emperor Konstantinos XI. Palaiologos:<br /><br />"Noon out of night - all life a radiance!"<br />he shouted and rushed into the horde<br />dragging behind him an endless golden line<br /><br />Death and resurrection of Konstantinos Paläologos from Odysseas Elytis (you can find the whole poem here - http://www-hpcc.astro.washington.edu/faculty/marios/Poems/elytis/kp).<br /><br />In Greek there are therefore many songs and legends, because even if Byzantium has faded already, after this the Greek people or „the Rhomaer“ as still called thereselfs, were pressed to the lowest cultural level by the Turks. The churches were robbed and desecrated and changed into mosques…<br /><br />For the Greeks therefore today's date is connect with a trauma. As I mentioned already once, it’s not coincidental that Greek people, who had taken refuge not least in their fairy tales called them „paramythi “, which is from „paramythia “, „comforting words“.<br /><br />“O could I be a bird, could I be a swallow,<br />to fly to the sharp black mountains of Bulgaria!<br />…<br />A Greek girl cried loud from a high tower:<br />„Com and see my king, you ruler Konstantinos,<br />Constantinople burns and all monasteries are in flame.<br />See the Turks slaughtering the Greeks like lambs!“<br />How could the king this see, the ruler Konstantinos,<br />Since he was killed, in the light of the morning, already yesterday! “<br /><br />Folk song, translate by Georgios Aridas<br /><br />And also we lost something. The Byzantine Empire was something great in European history and it is sad our Western European ancestors became guilty with its fall. Therefore this Pope did nothing else, quoting a mostly educated Byzantine emperor, than honouring a memory we have to be thankful infinitely.MartininBrodahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13367467039848677931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5407783074290571587.post-63502400568000044252009-05-29T20:58:58.928+02:002009-05-29T20:58:58.928+02:00a translation will follow today, but in an hour or...a translation will follow today, but in an hour or soMartininBrodahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13367467039848677931noreply@blogger.com